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01/29/2016 01:00 PM House RESOURCES

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01:03:30 PM Presentation(s): Alaska Liquefied Natural Gas Project by State of Alaska Gas Team
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AKLNG Project by State of Alaska Gas Team
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                        January 29, 2016                                                                                        
                           1:02 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Benjamin Nageak, Co-Chair                                                                                        
Representative David Talerico, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Mike Hawker, Vice Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kurt Olson                                                                                                       
Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                      
Representative Andy Josephson                                                                                                   
Representative Geran Tarr                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Herron                                                                                                       
Representative Craig Johnson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION(S):  ALASKA LIQUEFIED NATURAL GAS PROJECT BY STATE                                                                 
OF ALASKA GAS TEAM                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
FRITZ KRUSEN, Interim President                                                                                                 
Alaska Gasline Development Corporation (AGDC)                                                                                   
Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development                                                                      
(DCCED)                                                                                                                         
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT: Provided a PowerPoint presentation on                                                                     
organization, coordination, and decision making for the Alaska                                                                  
Liquefied Natural Gas (AK LNG) State Gas Team (SGT).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MARTY RUTHERFORD, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                           
Office of the Commissioner                                                                                                      
Department of Natural Resources (DNR)                                                                                           
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Provided  a  PowerPoint   presentation  on                                                             
organization, coordination,  and decision  making for  the Alaska                                                               
Liquefied Natural Gas (AK LNG) State Gas Team (SGT).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG RICHARDS, Attorney General                                                                                                
Department of Law (DOL)                                                                                                         
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Provided  a  PowerPoint   presentation  on                                                             
organization, coordination,  and decision  making for  the Alaska                                                               
Liquefied Natural Gas (AK LNG) State Gas Team (SGT).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
RANDALL HOFFBECK, Commissioner                                                                                                  
Department of Revenue (DOR)                                                                                                     
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Provided  a  PowerPoint   presentation  on                                                             
organization, coordination,  and decision  making for  the Alaska                                                               
Liquefied Natural Gas (AK LNG) State Gas Team (SGT).                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:02:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  BENJAMIN NAGEAK  called  the  House Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting to order at  1:02 p.m.  Representatives Nageak,                                                               
Talerico,  Tarr,  Josephson,  Seaton,   Olson,  and  Hawker  were                                                               
present at the call to order.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION(S):  Alaska Liquefied Natural  Gas Project by State                                                               
of Alaska Gas Team                                                                                                              
PRESENTATION(S):  Alaska Liquefied Natural Gas Project by State                                                             
                       of Alaska Gas Team                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
1:03:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NAGEAK announced  that the only order  of business would                                                               
be a  presentation on the  Alaska Liquefied Natural Gas  (AK LNG)                                                               
Project  by  the  State  of  Alaska  Gas  Team.    He  asked  the                                                               
presenters to introduce themselves.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:04:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
FRITZ  KRUSEN,  Interim  President,  Alaska  Gasline  Development                                                               
Corporation  (AGDC), at  the  request  of Representative  Hawker,                                                               
introduced himself  as a  newcomer before  the committee  and the                                                               
public.   He said he is  an electrical engineer with  38 years of                                                               
experience in  the oil and gas  industry.  He said  he has worked                                                               
in  the continental  United States  with  natural gas  gathering,                                                               
processing, and  transmission lines.   He  told the  committee he                                                               
was  hired on  with  AGDC as  the Vice  President  of the  Alaska                                                               
Liquefied  Natural  Gas  (AK  LNG) Project  and  works  with  the                                                               
Project Steering Committee, which  is the technical guiding group                                                               
for the AK LNG Project.   Mr. Krusen commented that he hopes when                                                               
people  see him  they  see  not him  personally,  but  AGDC.   He                                                               
thanked the committee for allowing him to speak today.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:09:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARTY   RUTHERFORD,   Deputy    Commissioner,   Office   of   the                                                               
Commissioner, Department  of Natural Resources  (DNR), instructed                                                               
the committee to  turn to slide 2 of  the PowerPoint presentation                                                               
where she outlined what the team  will be discussing.  She stated                                                               
the summary  would include the statutory  authorities within each                                                               
agency, their roles  with the decision-making process  for AK LNG                                                               
actions  within each  authority,  the  state team  organizational                                                               
structure, and the coordination  involved between agencies and AK                                                               
LNG.   She  listed the  included  agencies as  the Department  of                                                               
Natural  Resources (DNR),  the Department  of Revenue  (DOR), the                                                               
Department  of  Law (DOL),  and  the  Alaska Gasline  Development                                                               
Corporation (AGDC).   She concluded that time  willing, an update                                                               
would be given  on the status of the TransCanada  (TC) buyout and                                                               
the AGDC presidential search.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:10:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CRAIG RICHARDS, Attorney General,  Department of Law (DOL), moved                                                               
to  slide  3,  "Senate  Bill   138  Summary,"  and  reviewed  the                                                               
provisions  of Senate  Bill 138  [passed and  signed into  law in                                                               
2014].  One of the things Senate  Bill 138 did was to provide the                                                               
relative  authority for  the different  governmental authorities,                                                               
particularly  DNR  and DOR.    He  stated  Senate Bill  138  also                                                               
reworked production tax  so the State of Alaska  (SOA) would have                                                               
the option to  take production taxes in actual gas  as opposed to                                                               
money.  He added  AGDC was created to be the  entity in charge of                                                               
the state-owned infrastructure for the  project.  He concluded by                                                               
saying  Senate  Bill  138  created  the  Municipal  Advisory  Gas                                                               
Project  Review Board  (MAGPRB),  which is  the municipal  entity                                                               
Commissioner  Hoffbeck  works  with  to develop  a  property  tax                                                               
framework  that is  acceptable and  works for  the varying  state                                                               
municipalities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:13:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  requested clarification of  Mr. Richards's                                                               
statement about  taking production Tax-As-Gas (TAG)  and asked if                                                               
that  would decrease  the state's  monetary participation  in the                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS replied  it would provide the  option, if ultimately                                                               
selected by the  producers and upon approval  of the legislature,                                                               
for  production taxes  to  be taken  at the  wellhead  in gas  as                                                               
opposed to  money.  He  further clarified that TAG  decreases the                                                               
amount  of cash  at the  point of  production the  state receives                                                               
while  increasing   Alaska's  commercial  participation   in  the                                                               
infrastructure, marketing, delivery, and sale of gas.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  said he  wanted  to  make sure  that  the                                                               
state's  participation  in  this   would  not  decrease  Alaska's                                                               
monetary share.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS explained  Alaska's royalty  share of  12.5 percent                                                               
interest without the provision would  increase to 25 percent with                                                               
the TAG provision. He reiterated that  fact by noting it puts the                                                               
state at a  quarter, versus an eighth,  commodity participant for                                                               
its own gas.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON offered his  understanding that it wasn't a                                                               
decrease  in money  in  the project  so  much as  it  was in  the                                                               
upstream value and how that was derived.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS answered yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:15:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  said slide  4,  "Overview  of State  Authorities,"                                                               
would be better left for each individual agency to explain.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:15:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD  stated  that slide  5,  "Department  of  Natural                                                               
Resources  (DNR)  Authority  for  AK LNG  Project,"  names  which                                                               
negotiations the DNR  commissioner is authorized to  make.  These                                                               
include commercial agreements, modification  of some lease terms,                                                               
and marketing  volumes of Royalty-In-Kind  (RIK) and TAG  for the                                                               
state.  She explained that  under Alaska Statute (AS) 38.05, DNR,                                                               
in consultation with DOR, is allowed  to manage the sale of gases                                                               
acquired when companies  decide to pay their  production taxes in                                                               
gas  versus  money.   She  said  DNR  also negotiates  the  "very                                                               
foundational"  threshold agreement  referred to  as the  Upstream                                                               
Gas Supply and Balancing Agreement.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  expressed the importance of  understanding the 25                                                               
percent ownership position.  She  said AS 38.05 allowed the State                                                               
of  Alaska to  determine if  AK LNG  progresses and  producers to                                                               
choose  to pay  their production  taxes in  gas at  a 13  percent                                                               
gross payment in  addition to 12.5 percent  royalties received as                                                               
a landowner,  as well as  what the payment  should be out  of the                                                               
Point Thomson Unit.  Ms. Rutherford  said, "Right now there are a                                                               
number  of what's  called  net profit  share  leases and  sliding                                                               
scale leases and  ... we are in the process  of negotiating fixed                                                               
royalty shares  on those and it  is the combination of  the three                                                               
pieces that will determine exactly  what our total gas share will                                                               
be."  She  estimated the amount to be between  24 and 25 percent,                                                               
but  stressed  that  25  percent   is  not  a  guarantee.    Once                                                               
negotiations  are   finalized  over  the  next   few  months  the                                                               
percentage will become more precise.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD  related  that  the  DNR  commissioner  may  make                                                               
certain modifications  to AK LNG  Project leases for  the initial                                                               
project term (IPT).  She explained  IPT to mean whatever term the                                                               
legislature and  executive branch  determine the initial  life of                                                               
the project to be.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:19:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER commented  on the  quality of  the working                                                               
document the presenters  brought forth today.  He  asked if there                                                               
were  many times  where there  was a  discrepancy among  agencies                                                               
that  required   a  higher   level  to   figure  out   roles  and                                                               
responsibilities of the various agencies.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  replied, "Not specifically," but  indicated there                                                               
were  some areas  needing clarification,  such as  "elements that                                                               
fell within  certain issues."   She told  the committee  that in-                                                               
state gas  supply has a  demand and a  supply side that  would be                                                               
seen  later  in  the  responsible,  accountable,  consulted,  and                                                               
informed    (RACI)   chart    showing   specific    work   stream                                                               
responsibilities.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER said  the "lack  of granularity"  had been                                                               
one of the  biggest issues with the legislature in  the past.  He                                                               
stated the importance of knowing  who the legislature was working                                                               
with,   which   role   each  entity   played,   and   where   the                                                               
responsibility rested.   He asked  how long this  granularity had                                                               
been sorted out.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  responded it depends  on which person  was asked.                                                               
She  offered her  feelings it  was not  fully captured  until the                                                               
last week  and a half, but  there was a good  understanding of it                                                               
within the teams.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  surmised  that  that  would  explain  the                                                               
governor's public comments of  last Saturday [1/23/16] explaining                                                               
how  everyone was  on  the same  page and  details  had all  been                                                               
sorted out.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD answered  that was correct.   She noted everything                                                               
had to  be written  down and  in black and  white to  dismiss any                                                               
misconceptions.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  expressed  his appreciation  for  getting                                                               
issues sorted out.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:23:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  inquired whether the TAG  percentage of                                                               
between 12.5  and 13  percent was  about the  same for  other LNG                                                               
projects  around  the world.    He  further questioned  why  that                                                               
number was chosen and not, for example, 20 percent.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.   RUTHERFORD  replied   she  would   think  of   it  slightly                                                               
differently.   The Prudhoe  Bay leases were  signed and  fixed at                                                               
12.5 percent  as "deal  one leases" back  when the  first Prudhoe                                                               
Bay  lease sale  occurred.   Those  leases are  the  bulk of  the                                                               
leases  that set  the  royalty amounts.   Some  of  the new  form                                                               
leases for Point Thomson have  different royalty percentages, net                                                               
profit share, and sliding scale,  and agencies are working to fix                                                               
those  so there  can  be  a well  understood  lease to  determine                                                               
actual  royalty amounts.   The  legislature  determined that  the                                                               
producers had the ability to  convert their payment of production                                                               
tax to gas  by fixing it at  13 percent.  She stated  she was not                                                               
involved in  the discussions but  understood that the  range that                                                               
was  considered by  the  legislature was  8-13  percent, and  the                                                               
legislature chose the  higher number.  She reported it  is the 13                                                               
percent gross that is added  to the actual royalty percentages of                                                               
leases at both  Prudhoe Bay and Point Thomson.   She informed the                                                               
committee  that is  where the  24-25 percent  comes from  and the                                                               
actual rate will  be set once negotiations are  complete and will                                                               
be applied to all leases for  the volume offtake.  That rate will                                                               
not  be fixed  by the  legislature,  but instead  by the  offtake                                                               
determination that  will be initially  made for both  Prudhoe Bay                                                               
and Point Thomson, and will set  the equity share for the rest of                                                               
the project.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  asked   whether  the  legislature  had                                                               
targeted that properly when it  looked at the 8-13 percent range,                                                               
and chose 13  percent, or if the legislature  had cheated current                                                               
and future  generations [of Alaskans]  out of a  "more reasonable                                                               
share of the value of production."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD allowed that she had not researched that.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:28:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON shared  his  interpretation that  whatever                                                               
the  RIK and  TAG percentage  is going  to be,  the participation                                                               
percentage will be as well.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD confirmed that is correct.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:28:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD instructed  the  committee to  turn  to slide  6,                                                               
"Department of  Natural Resources (DNR) Roles/Focus  Areas for AK                                                               
LNG  Project."   She said  this slide  further articulates  DNR's                                                               
statutory  responsibilities   for  the  AK  LNG   Project.    She                                                               
explained  some  of  the  main  roles of  DNR  are  to  negotiate                                                               
commercial agreements,  hold the  best interest  of the  state in                                                               
its hands,  and move  forward the main  policy objectives  of the                                                               
state.  The department is charged  with the task of managing some                                                               
of  the  risks   associated  with  entering  the   project  as  a                                                               
commercial  player and  not  as the  "normal  sovereignty."   Ms.                                                               
Rutherford  explained  a  "normal  sovereignty"  relationship  is                                                               
established  by royalty  and  taxing, such  as  property tax  and                                                               
production tax.   She stressed the  fact this will be  a "totally                                                               
new  ball  game" for  the  state  as  an  "equity player."    She                                                               
illustrated  DNR  will  have two  roles,  marketing  of  in-state                                                               
natural gas  and delivery of  domestic gas  supply to AGDC.   She                                                               
added that AGDC will also function  as the shipper for the AK LNG                                                               
Project.  Ms. Rutherford advised  the committee the gas will come                                                               
off of the two units, down  the pipelines, into the gas treatment                                                               
plant  (GTP), into  an  LNG  facility in  Nikiski,  and, at  that                                                               
point, come  off the marine  system and enter the  export market.                                                               
At various flanges along the way  the gas may come off as natural                                                               
gas, which AGDC  will either aggregate or facilitate  the sale of                                                               
directly  to the  in-state market.   She  stressed that  the main                                                               
goal is protecting the best interest of the state.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:30:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER shared  his interpretation  of how  the 25                                                               
percent  of  state  ownership  is   determined.    He  referenced                                                               
discussions from  a previous  House Resources  Standing Committee                                                               
meeting  [1/27/16] explaining  the  project is  progressing.   He                                                               
mentioned once  the state gets through  Pre-Front End Engineering                                                               
and  Design  (Pre-FEED) then  the  discussion  could move  on  to                                                               
Front  End  Engineering  and  Design   (FEED).    He  pondered  a                                                               
situation  where the  DNR commissioner  felt RIK  was not  in the                                                               
best interest of  the state and decided not to  make that choice.                                                               
Representative Hawker  inquired whether capital costs  remain the                                                               
full 25 percent  if equity ownership is reduced to  13 percent in                                                               
the pipe.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD replied it is a  little different than that.  If a                                                               
determination  cannot be  made to  prompt RIK  verses Royalty-In-                                                               
Value (RIV),  it wouldn't give  producers the option to  even pay                                                               
their  production taxes  in gas.   The  State Gas  Team (SGT)  is                                                               
presuming it can  get to an RIK decision.   She explained this is                                                               
done by  minimizing the state's  risk and costs  while maximizing                                                               
revenue  options.    She   further  responded  to  Representative                                                               
Hawker's question by drawing attention  to the second half of the                                                               
slide.    She  explained  that  by ensuring  the  state  has  the                                                               
appropriate  gas   lifting  rights  and  access   to  fundamental                                                               
information, it will have the  right tools to deal with potential                                                               
buyers.    This  will  make  the  state  what  producers  call  a                                                               
"synthetic working  interest owner," which is  needed to convince                                                               
buyers it actually  has the gas to sell.   Upstream costs such as                                                               
field  costs out  of  the  units and  also  carbon  dioxide (CO)                                                                
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disposal costs from the GTP will  need to be determined.  With an                                                               
adequate   market  structure   to  minimize   transportation  and                                                               
development costs  while advancing the revenue  stream, the state                                                               
will  be "situated  very much  like a  producer."   She ended  by                                                               
explaining the  importance of protecting the  state's acquisition                                                               
and sale  of gas just  like [producers]  do, because it  is those                                                               
upstream  revenues  that  will  be  the  state's  source  of  new                                                               
revenues.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:34:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER clarified  by  offering his  understanding                                                               
that  should  the  state  elect  not to  take  RIK,  the  state's                                                               
interest in the  project will not be lowered.   He reiterated his                                                               
question if, at that point,  the state would still be responsible                                                               
for paying  the full  25 percent  for project  costs.   He stated                                                               
that was the  scenario he previously offered  that Ms. Rutherford                                                               
responded to as "wasn't quite that way."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD clarified  that it  is [the  state's] gas  supply                                                               
that "triggers our  equity position within the entire  AK LNG kit                                                               
...  infrastructure,  so  we  would   be  down  to  zero."    She                                                               
referenced [Senate Bill] 138 [passed  in the Twenty-Eighth Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature]  and explained  the  structure  of the  bill,                                                               
combined with  the decision to  take RIK, as being  what triggers                                                               
the  producer's  ability  to  initiate   a  TAG  decision.    She                                                               
explained that  a lease calculation  determines the  total volume                                                               
of gas to  come up with a percentage that  is the total ownership                                                               
percentage and is  "solidified within the infrastructure.   If we                                                               
don't take RIK,  it doesn't trigger TAG, we have  zero portion of                                                               
infrastructure."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:35:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  offered  his  interpretation  of  a  zero                                                               
ownership scenario for  the state where value  is extracted using                                                               
alternate  mechanisms  by  taking  it at  the  wellhead  and  the                                                               
"industry basically carrying the gas."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD acknowledged  Representative Hawker's statement by                                                               
saying, "That could certainly be  the alternative approach."  She                                                               
stressed  that  is  why  SGT  is presuming  it  can  get  an  RIK                                                               
decision.   She  explained in  order  to do  that the  commercial                                                               
arrangements will have  to be locked to ensure  risks and rewards                                                               
can  be properly  calculated.   The state  will then  be able  to                                                               
weigh  those factors  as a  decision  moves forward  into a  FEED                                                               
decision and final investment decision (FID).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:36:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD   reviewed  slide   7,  "Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources  (DNR) Functional  Organization  for  AK LNG  Project."                                                               
She  explained the  chart  showed the  commissioner  at the  top,                                                               
followed  by herself,  deputy commissioner,  overseeing both  the                                                               
Division   of   Oil   &   Gas   (DOG)   and   North   Slope   Gas                                                               
Commercialization (NSG).   She  oversees subject  matter upstream                                                               
experts   from  DOG   who  have   both  resource   and  technical                                                               
perspectives.    The  commercial  lead  is  Antony  Scott.    The                                                               
upstream  lead  is  Steve  Wright, Chevron  retiree,  who  is  on                                                               
contract  with NSG.   Midstream  Lead  is David  deGruyter.   She                                                               
stated NSG  is currently trying  to contract someone to  fill the                                                               
vacant  marketing  lead  position  who  can  help  negotiate  the                                                               
marketing  structure.    There are  numerous  approaches  to  the                                                               
structure such  as:   a four party  joint venture;  an individual                                                               
market structure  with each company;  a fully  independent equity                                                               
organization  where DNR  sets up  a unique  structure to  compete                                                               
"head to  head" with  other companies; or,  as allowed  by Senate                                                               
Bill  138, the  department  could enter  into  an agreement  with                                                               
individual companies where  they would sell [the  state's] gas on                                                               
terms "functionally  equal to however  they sell their  own gas."                                                               
She explained  the position is  currently being filled  through a                                                               
contractor while commercial terms are negotiated.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD   described  slide  8,  "Department   of  Natural                                                               
Resources (DNR) Decision-Making Process,"  as showing the process                                                               
where the  SGT, with  the help of  subject matter  experts (SME),                                                               
develops   proposals,  decisions   and  policy   direction,  then                                                               
consults the  Office of the  Commissioner, which makes  the final                                                               
decision.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:39:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOSEPHSON   shared    his   understanding   that                                                               
ExxonMobil Corporation will  not enter a joint  venture [with the                                                               
state]; however the other two [BP and ConocoPhillips] would.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD answered  she is not at liberty to  talk about any                                                               
party's  position.   She admitted  that  discussions are  ongoing                                                               
with all parties.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:40:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RANDALL  HOFFBECK,  Commissioner,  Department of  Revenue  (DOR),                                                               
turned to slide 9, "Department  of Revenue (DOR) Authority for AK                                                               
LNG Project,"  and elected  to skip reviewing  the first  part of                                                               
the slide,  because it had already  been discussed.  He  said DOR                                                               
is in charge  of managing the revenue received  for gas delivered                                                               
to  the  state.    He   stated  in  relation  to  governance  and                                                               
commercial and  fiscal agreements, DOR is  continually monitoring                                                               
those negotiations.   The decision  for the project [AK  LNG] has                                                               
not yet been  made, because it is mostly guided  by the structure                                                               
of the contract.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HOFFBECK announced slide  10, "Department of Revenue                                                               
(DOR)  Roles/Focus Areas,"  and  explained  Lazard presented  DOR                                                               
preliminary  reports to  the legislature  last year  [2015] on  a                                                               
range of  financing options.   The department is  in consultation                                                               
with DNR on  negotiations of various other contracts.   Right now                                                               
DOR's  primary focus  is identifying  and recommending  financing                                                               
options  and opportunities  for co-investment  by other  entities                                                               
within Alaska, including municipal  and regional corporations and                                                               
even individual Alaskans.  He  explained the analysis for all the                                                               
options will  be included  in Lazard's  final report.  He pointed                                                               
out  that   if  the  co-investment  option   is  available,  then                                                               
participation  decisions will  not be  made until  later on.   He                                                               
noted  this  is  because  of  the high  risk  involved  in  early                                                               
participation due to having money  tied up for an extended period                                                               
of time.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HOFFBECK  relayed DOR  is working directly  with the                                                               
Municipal Advisory  Gas Project Review Board  (MAGPRB) consulting                                                               
on  an appropriate  tax structure  for payment  in lieu  of taxes                                                               
(PILT).   He  stated that  DOR presented  a draft  report to  the                                                               
Senate   Community  and   Regional  Affairs   Standing  Committee                                                               
yesterday  [1/28/16]  and  a  final   report  should  be  on  the                                                               
governor's desk by Tuesday or Wednesday [2/2/16 or 2/3/16].                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:44:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  commented on  property tax,  especially in                                                               
reference  to  the North  Slope,  which  is  being looked  at  in                                                               
relation to oil taxes.  He  asked if this structure is similar to                                                               
the current  way municipalities and  the state split  revenue for                                                               
property taxes.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HOFFBECK replied  no, the structure on  this will be                                                               
very different  than the current  structure.  Presently  the bulk                                                               
of  the  revenue  flows  to  the  jurisdiction  where  the  asset                                                               
resides.  It  has been made clear to MAGPRB  the previous outcome                                                               
would  not be  likely  this time  around and  the  state will  be                                                               
keeping significantly more of the revenue.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  whether the  MAGPRB  report  would                                                               
include a general breakdown of  what percentage goes to the state                                                               
treasury versus to municipalities.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HOFFBECK responded no, the  focus of this summer was                                                               
determining the  impact on  the project.   He stated  they really                                                               
honed in on  how much the project would be  paying in PILT during                                                               
construction  and  throughout the  life  of  the contracts.    He                                                               
declared that is  key to moving the project forward.   The second                                                               
focal point would  be the relationship of  municipalities and the                                                               
state: and  how much flows  through to the  municipalities versus                                                               
how  much resides  with the  state.   He  informed the  committee                                                               
those would not hold the project back.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  noted   that  the   net  present   value                                                               
calculation is  part of the  decision-making process.   He opined                                                               
part of  the problem is  that unless  the legislature has  a good                                                               
net  present value  (NPV)  to  this project,  "it's  going to  be                                                               
difficult to  make that decision."   He further elaborated  it is                                                               
going  to  be  critical  to  have   that  [NPV]  as  one  of  the                                                               
fundamentals of what  the state looks at when  making a decision,                                                               
because  the  portion the  state  treasury  receives could  be  a                                                               
significant portion of the value of the project.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HOFFBECK agreed and  said when contracts come before                                                               
the body  they will  include recommendations  on what  that spilt                                                               
should be.  He noted that  MAGPRB has not identified a reasonable                                                               
spilt  on [the  municipalities']  behalf.   He  also offered  his                                                               
assumption [DOR  and the  MAG group] will  be in  disagreement on                                                               
what  that split  should  be  when the  bill  is  brought to  the                                                               
legislature.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HOFFBECK explained  a lot of the focus  right now is                                                               
analyzing  the  commercial agreements  for  the  impact on  state                                                               
funding and  making sure  funding sources are  not excluded.   He                                                               
also  said  DOR  is  engaged in  the  development  of  governance                                                               
agreements.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:48:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HOFFBECK returned  to the  PowerPoint presentation.                                                               
He directed attention  to slide 11, "Department  of Revenue (DOR)                                                               
Functional Organization for  AK LNG Project," and  said the chart                                                               
shows  DOR's  role  is  much  smaller  than  that  of  DNR.    He                                                               
communicated how  everything in  DOR, in relation  to the  AK LNG                                                               
Project,  is   reported  up  through  Deputy   Commissioner  Dona                                                               
Keppers.   He  further relayed  that DOR  has primarily  used its                                                               
existing staff and has not "staffed up."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HOFFBECK addressed slide  12, "Department of Revenue                                                               
(DOR) Decision-Making Process," where he  noted DOR uses the same                                                               
reporting format as DNR.  He said  his staff did all the "work on                                                               
the floor"  then reported back  to him before any  decisions were                                                               
advanced to the higher level team.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:49:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER pointed  out the  similarities in  DNR and                                                               
DOR  summary slides.    He  stated his  term  for  the three  SGT                                                               
executives  sitting  before  the  committee  today  [Commissioner                                                               
Hoffbeck,  Deputy Commissioner  Rutherford, and  Attorney General                                                               
Richards]  is "the  administration's  executive  committee."   He                                                               
revealed that at  the end of the day, he  credits them for making                                                               
all  the big  decisions.   Representative  Hawker questioned  the                                                               
relationship between  "the administration's  executive committee"                                                               
and  the contractors.    He requested  clarification  on who  was                                                               
physically at the negotiations table  directing the strategy.  He                                                               
inquired if  the state is  vesting in the  contractors' authority                                                               
to  make decisions  on its  behalf or  if ["the  administration's                                                               
executive   committee"]  was   actually  at   the  table   having                                                               
information fed to it via the contractors.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  replied it  is a matrix  structure where  each of                                                               
the  teams  have various  integrated  groups  within them.    She                                                               
elaborated   that   the   particular   issue   determines   which                                                               
representatives from each agency will  be involved.  She used the                                                               
upstream issue  of gas balancing  and supply as an  example where                                                               
full-time  contractor  Steve Wright  heads  a  team which  almost                                                               
hourly   consults   with  policy   makers   or   more  often   if                                                               
clarification is  needed.  She  explained the  daily negotiations                                                               
are really  about understanding each party's  position and trying                                                               
to come up with agreements that address everyone's issues.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD explained  that the  primary negotiators  are Ken                                                               
Minesinger with  Greenburg Traurig  and Manzer Ijaz  with Milbank                                                               
who  both  hold very  different  expertise.   She  stressed  that                                                               
neither  of   the  negotiators  are   ever  left  alone   at  the                                                               
negotiating  table and  are always  supported by  members of  the                                                               
team, such as (DNR) executive upstream manager Steve Wright.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:54:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER said  it  was his  understanding that  the                                                               
actual  negotiations   were  taking   place  by  the   two  hired                                                               
consultants.   He stated his appreciation  for the clarification.                                                               
He  reiterated that  these are  not  inexpensive consultants  and                                                               
questioned  if the  $11 million  being  paid out  was giving  the                                                               
state the most value.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD answered,  "Absolutely we  are.   Yes.   It is  a                                                               
world class project."  She shared  how all agencies are trying to                                                               
do  their best  at  cost-saving measures,  such  as doing  things                                                               
electronically  and telephonically  whenever  they  can, but  she                                                               
emphasized that the  expertise of the negotiators  is one expense                                                               
well worth the value.  She  further stated that the guidance from                                                               
[the Department of Law] and  subject matter experts (SME) ensures                                                               
the state is not at a disadvantage.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER asked  Ms. Rutherford  for assurance  that                                                               
"the [administration's]  executive committee" has not  vested the                                                               
state's decision-making  authority with  these consultants,   but                                                               
rather that  authority and  the onus of  policy making  was still                                                               
retained by the state's commissioners and attorney general.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD replied, "Absolutely."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HAWKER   thanked    Ms.   Rutherford   for   the                                                               
clarification and stated how important  clarity was in how the AK                                                               
LNG Project should be developed.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:56:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUSEN  directed  attention  to slide  13,  "Alaska  Gasline                                                               
Development  Corp.  (AGDC)  Authority  for AK  LNG  Project."  He                                                               
admitted  slight  embarrassment  in  having to  come  before  the                                                               
authority that created  AGDC and telling it  what its authorities                                                               
are.   He  touched  on  the fact  that  AGDC  is responsible  for                                                               
developing the project and for  acquiring ownership rights to the                                                               
pipeline  and   gas  treatment  and  liquefaction   plants.    He                                                               
acknowledged the appropriations set  forth by the legislature for                                                               
the taking of TC.   He announced AGDC is now  the full 25 percent                                                               
representative  on  the  facilities  chain.   As  result  of  the                                                               
legislative  appropriations, AGDC  is also  in charge  of payroll                                                               
and makes  "the cash calls."   He  finished by stating  that AGDC                                                               
works with DNR and DOR to maximize the value of Alaska's gas.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUSEN  introduced  slide 14,  "Alaska  Gasline  Development                                                               
Corp.  (AGDC)  Roles/Focus Areas,"  and  said  that most  of  the                                                               
information  on  this  slide  has already  been  addressed.    He                                                               
directed the  committee's attention to  the middle dot  under the                                                               
key project areas,  which said AGDC functions  as the transporter                                                               
for  Alaska's  gas.   He  referenced  Ms.  Rutherford's  previous                                                               
explanation that  the shippers' role belongs  to whoever actually                                                               
owns the molecules.  He explained  the shippers are the ones that                                                               
move the  molecules down  the line and  said the  relationship is                                                               
defined by the  Federal Energy Regulatory Commission  (FERC).  He                                                               
illustrated  "We  operate sort  of  in  the sandbox  called  FERC                                                               
section 3."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:59:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN explained slide 15,  "Alaska Gasline Development Corp.                                                               
(AGDC) Functional Organization  for AK LNG Project,"  as being an                                                               
organizational chart.   He said AGDC is a  public corporation, so                                                               
it  has  a  board.    He  mentioned  the  president  position  as                                                               
currently being filled  by himself.  Next he  stated the External                                                               
Affairs and Government Relations  (EAGR) position as being filled                                                               
by Miles Baker.  He said  AGDC, as a project organization, really                                                               
embraces  the contractor  model.   He told  about the  commercial                                                               
side of the  chart, with Lieza Wilcox as the  vice president.  He                                                               
talked about  normal contract  work where a  person is  hired for                                                               
the duration of  a job and then  is done.  He  explained AGDC has                                                               
an exception  with Ms. Wilcox,  which he calls "a  hat position,"                                                               
where  she actually  wears  the  AGDC hat.    He mentioned  Bruce                                                               
Tangeman, the finance and administrative  vice president, who was                                                               
in  the  audience.   He  further  explained the  program  manager                                                               
position, which Frank Richards, "the  fellow who brought you ASAP                                                               
[Alaska Stand Alone Pipeline]," fills.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN moved  to slide 16, "Alaska  Gasline Development Corp.                                                               
(AGDC)  Decision-Making Process."   He  explained that  technical                                                               
decision making is  "pretty simple" because AK LNG  has access to                                                               
the  same SME  as ASAP.   He  articulated that  when it  comes to                                                               
pipeline matters,  Frank Richards and  the SME get  together, and                                                               
for  gas treatment  or  LNG plant  matters, he  and  the SME  get                                                               
together.  Mr.  Krusen explained he sits on  the Project Steering                                                               
Committee and  Frank Richards sits  on the  Management Committee.                                                               
He  stressed that  decisions  are  not made  in  isolation. If  a                                                               
policy  decision  needs  to be  made,  consultation  ensues  with                                                               
others at the  table.  He said that "by  delegation of authority"                                                               
some decisions are made by the president and the board.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:02:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  announced  slide  17,  "Department  of  Law  (DOL)                                                               
Functional  Organization for  AK  LNG Project."    He started  by                                                               
saying  that  as Attorney  General,  he  oversees  the DOL.    He                                                               
explained the  main purpose of DOL  in the AK LNG  Project was to                                                               
provide legal advice  to all of the agencies.   He said according                                                               
to AS 42.08.220, AGDC has the  right to maintain its own internal                                                               
or  outside counsel  for matters  concerning internal  governance                                                               
issues  or  litigation.   The  department  is  ultimately  AGDC's                                                               
counsel for commercial agreements and contracts.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  OLSON  inquired  whether DOL  currently  has  any                                                               
outside counsel on retainer.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS  confirmed  DOL does  have  outside  counsel  under                                                               
retainer.  He elaborated that  two large international law firms,                                                               
Milbank  and Greenburg  Traurig are  on retainer.   Mr.  Richards                                                               
explained  DOL  received   a  "fairly  substantial"  supplemental                                                               
appropriation [during a  2015] special session for  the two firms                                                               
to draft  commercial agreements.   He explained, "That  money, we                                                               
have not  been burning it  particularly heavy, the last  month or                                                               
two   because  the   commercial   negotiations  aren't   churning                                                               
documents  in most  of  the  work streams  at  this  point."   He                                                               
offered  his  hope things  will  pick  up  over the  next  couple                                                               
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS returned  to slide  17  where he  pointed out  that                                                               
Jerry  Juday is  AGDC's primary  contact for  DOL.   He explained                                                               
Martin Schultz  and Elena Romerdahl  are both  assistant attorney                                                               
generals with DOL's  Natural Resources Section and  they are able                                                               
to attend virtually all meetings with their agency clients.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:04:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER offered his  understanding of using the two                                                               
big law  firms Milbank  and Greenburg Traurig.   He  also offered                                                               
his observation  that negotiations have  slowed down quite  a bit                                                               
at this  point.  He  referenced the 1/18/16 letter  from Governor                                                               
Walker  to  oil  and  gas   producers  [ConocoPhillips,  BP,  and                                                               
ExxonMobil] that declared  eight deliverables by the  end of this                                                               
legislative session  [April 2016].   He  questioned why  [the law                                                               
firms] have not been used heavily in this critical time.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS replied  it is important to  differentiate the roles                                                               
that  outside  counsel play.    The  two  main lawyers  hold  the                                                               
negotiating role and are at  the negotiation tables almost daily.                                                               
He disclosed  that the expenses are  not just being paid  out for                                                               
one big  lawyer to do all  the talking, but also  for the behind-                                                               
the-scenes work of  drafting agreements and other  documents.  He                                                               
explained  these  can often  times  be  100-page documents.    He                                                               
elaborated that most of the work  streams are not at the document                                                               
drafting stage yet.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:07:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER asked whether it  would be possible to give                                                               
some benchmarks of the eight  specific agreements that have to be                                                               
negotiated  by end  of  session.   He  requested  a basic  status                                                               
update showing  where negotiations  are at this  point.   He also                                                               
asked  when  the last  negotiation  session  was  held and  if  a                                                               
timeline could be given.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS answered that it  would "certainly be advisable" but                                                               
unfortunately most of that information is confidential.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  questioned   whether  the  scheduling  of                                                               
meetings was confidential.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. RICHARDS answered yes.  He  stressed he is not saying that is                                                               
the  way  things should  be,  just  that  that  is how  they  are                                                               
currently structured.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER repeated  his confidentiality  question to                                                               
Mr. Richards.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  RICHARDS confirmed  that  virtually  all communications  are                                                               
confidential.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:08:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.   RUTHERFORD   relayed   that   of   the   eight   agreements                                                               
Representative   Hawker  referenced,   seven  are   currently  in                                                               
constant negotiations.   She said  there are weekly  meetings for                                                               
some and  daily meetings for others.   She explained there  are a                                                               
couple foundational  agreements that are in  the principle stage,                                                               
so there have not been any draft agreements made yet.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER   asked  whether  Ms.   Rutherford  wasn't                                                               
breaking confidentiality by disclosing meeting frequencies.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  replied "I don't  think so, because I  didn't say                                                               
which  ones were  happening when.   I  am picking  my words  very                                                               
carefully here."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD further  elucidated  draft  agreements cannot  be                                                               
developed on  a couple of  foundational agreements,  because they                                                               
are  still in  the principle  stage.   She assured  the committee                                                               
that with  the exception of  one, there are  ongoing negotiations                                                               
on all of them.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:09:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  shared his understanding that  besides the                                                               
two prime  negotiation groups, there  are a number  of additional                                                               
contracted  support  people.   He  mentioned  Mr. Audie  Setters,                                                               
whose contract was  not renewed, and inquired what  had been done                                                               
to replace Mr.  Setters.  He also asked for  clarification of the                                                               
responsibilities of Rick Harper.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  related that  time has  been spent  identifying a                                                               
contractor  to  fill the  special  SME  marketing position    She                                                               
stated the  prospective candidate  has spent time  negotiating as                                                               
well  as  has  experience  in  LNG marketing.    She  said  [SGT]                                                               
realizes  these  people  are  very expensive  and  is  trying  to                                                               
utilize  them  "in  as  focused  a fashion  as  possible."    Ms.                                                               
Rutherford  discussed the  perspective  contractor  has not  only                                                               
"first  chair  position"  experience  but  also  has  operational                                                               
experience.   In  response  to  Representative Hawker's  question                                                               
about Mr. Harper,  Ms. Rutherford said he and  two gentleman from                                                               
Lummus Consultants International were brought  on to have a "cold                                                               
eyes review"  of the  ASAP dataset  to see if  it was  capable of                                                               
expansion,  to assess  the quality  of the  data, and  to give  a                                                               
timeline  of bringing  ASAP online.   She  stressed this  was not                                                               
done to  facilitate an  alternative project.   She stated  it was                                                               
simply  to  make the  information  available,  once analysis  was                                                               
complete,  to   not  only  the   executive  branch  but   to  the                                                               
legislature as  well.   Ms. Rutherford  explained Mr.  Harper and                                                               
the  two individuals  from Lummus  worked with  a combination  of                                                               
data including  that from Alaska  Gasline Inducement  Act (AGIA),                                                               
Alaska  Pipeline Project  (APP),  and both  the confidential  and                                                               
non-confidential ASAP  data.   She advised  that very  few people                                                               
outside  AGDC  have access  to  the  confidential data,  but  Mr.                                                               
Harper and  the two gentlemen from  Lummus took that and  made it                                                               
into something that can go  public.  She clarified the background                                                               
data will not be public information now or in the future.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:14:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  remarked that  this testimony opened  up a                                                               
whole  new  line  of  questioning.    He  asked  if  the  use  of                                                               
contractors  to  "scale up"  the  ASAP  dataset  was in  any  way                                                               
contradictory  to,  or  competing  with,  AK  LNG.    He  further                                                               
questioned  if  the "scaling  up"  was  in response  to  Governor                                                               
Walker's 1/18/16 letter to oil  and gas producers where there was                                                               
an "or else" provision at the end.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD answered,  "Absolutely not."  She  stated this was                                                               
in direct  response to  what the  administration requested.   The                                                               
administration  wanted   a  third  party  to   look  at  possible                                                               
alternatives, and it was not about  moving away from AK LNG.  She                                                               
stressed  that Governor  Walker supports  AK LNG.   She  said she                                                               
thought it was appropriate to  have this information in case, for                                                               
some reason, the project doesn't make  it to FEED.  She explained                                                               
the administration  doesn't have access to  the confidential ASAP                                                               
dataset and  wanted a third  party opinion  as to whether  or not                                                               
ASAP  would even  be a  viable  option in  a worse-case  scenario                                                               
where all partners back out at the end of Pre-FEED.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:17:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  commented that "this really  takes us back                                                               
to last legislative session" when it  was stated there would be a                                                               
"race to the  finish line" with ASAP and AK  LNG.  Representative                                                               
Hawker noted  had he known  the "space race" was  seemingly still                                                               
ongoing,  he  might  have characterized  his  response  a  little                                                               
differently.   He also asked  who Lummus is  and said he  was not                                                               
familiar with the company.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD replied  she would  get that  information to  the                                                               
committee.  She assured the  committee that the administration is                                                               
in no way  pursuing an alternative project.   She reiterated that                                                               
this  is  about  securing  Alaska's options  in  the  worst  case                                                               
scenario if the AK LNG Project could not be developed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER said his concern still stands.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:19:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD returned to the  PowerPoint presentation and moved                                                               
to slide  18, "State AK  LNG Organization Structure,"  to outline                                                               
the structure  for decision makers/policy  advisors and  the SGT.                                                               
She emphasized the  SGT and all of its  agency representation are                                                               
the people  who are working the  AK LNG issues on  a daily basis.                                                               
She  explained  they are  represented  by  DOR internal  SME  and                                                               
outside consultants.   She added  the same  can be said  for DNR.                                                               
Ms. Rutherford articulated AGDC,  SME, and consultants, supported                                                               
by DOL  and the  outside counsel,  are the  ones who  are working                                                               
within the teams every single  day; they bring analysis, options,                                                               
and questions  to those  next up  the line  such as  the attorney                                                               
general and department commissioners.   She elaborated that these                                                               
are the  people who determine  major policy issues,  unless there                                                               
is no resolution, at which time the governor would get involved.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:21:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUSEN  discussed slide  19,  "AK  LNG Project  Value  Chain                                                               
Model," stating  that the SGT decided  to use a block  diagram to                                                               
explain the  project.   He reported that  the two  anchor fields,                                                               
Point  Thomson  Unit  (PTU)  and  Prudhoe  Bay  Unit  (PBU),  and                                                               
Alaska's  gas molecules,  once acquired,  are owned  by DNR.   He                                                               
explained the  AK LNG "kit"  comprises: a transmission  line from                                                               
PTU about sixty  miles, a transmission line one mile  out of PBU,                                                               
a  large gas  treatment plant  (GTP) primarily  to remove  carbon                                                               
dioxide  (CO)   from the  natural  gas,  an  eight  hundred  mile                                                               
            2                                                                                                                   
pipeline, then  an LNG  plant in Nikiski.   Mr.  Krusen explained                                                               
that "kit" is what AGDC oversees.   Once LNG is made it goes back                                                               
to  DNR  for sale.    Mr.  Krusen  reported  that in  a  previous                                                               
presentation  [House Resources  Standing Committee,  on 1/25/16],                                                               
Mr. Butt explained "a ten to  one ratio of natural gas that flows                                                               
into LNG  versus that which is  available for in-state use."   He                                                               
informed the committee  the smaller amount of the  natural gas is                                                               
still DNR  molecules, and once  they "turn the corner,"  they are                                                               
in the  AGDC aggregator function.   He advised that AGDC  will be                                                               
the responsible  party for aggregator functions,  which will give                                                               
small  communities  a  voice  at  the  table.    He  said  AGDC's                                                               
management  of aggregator  functions  will  also ensure  lessened                                                               
impacts  on the  LNG  plant  when gas  is  removed for  seasonal,                                                               
weekly, and daily swings.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:24:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  introduced slide 20,  "SOA AK LNG  Work Streams,"                                                               
as  more  on functionality.    She  reported  the lower  tier  of                                                               
workers on the  SGT are managing around 20 work  streams that can                                                               
be  broken into  two main  categories, commercial  and technical.                                                               
She  explained  the  commercial  work  streams  are  required  to                                                               
develop the  actual commercial agreements, whereas  the technical                                                               
work streams deal  with the upstream functions such  as access to                                                               
the  molecules.   She noted  the  importance of  these duties  in                                                               
order for  a synthetic owner  to maintain the  same functionality                                                               
of a working interest owner.   She noted this is how Alaska's gas                                                               
is assured protection.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD discussed  slide 21,  "SOA AK  LNG Organizational                                                               
Framework,"   noting  that   the   SGT  is   designed  around   a                                                               
multidiscipline  matrix  that  supports both  the  technical  and                                                               
commercial  needs.   She  explained  each state  team  is led  by                                                               
either DNR, DOR, or AGDC, and  they all support one another.  She                                                               
noted that  within the  teams, work is  done both  internally and                                                               
externally.   She explained  that for  every hour  of negotiation                                                               
time,  seven  should  be  spent  doing  development  work.    She                                                               
elaborated that general  practice is to ensure  whatever issue is                                                               
on  the table  is  fully  understood, and  she  said the  state's                                                               
position can  be clearly  articulated.   She concluded  by saying                                                               
that  policy guidance  is  also  used to  elevate  issues to  the                                                               
policy makers.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.   RUTHERFORD   shared   slide   22,  "AGDC,   DNR   and   DOR                                                               
Coordination," explaining  AGDC, DNR, and DOR,  supported by DOL,                                                               
are  working in  jointly integrated  processes.   She opined  the                                                               
processes   have   given   them  a   better   understanding   and                                                               
appreciation  for their  statutory responsibilities.   She  noted                                                               
the importance of  knowing when and where  coordination is needed                                                               
and making  sure efforts are  not duplicated.  She  reported that                                                               
the full gas team meets weekly and AGDC and DOR meet biweekly.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:28:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN moved  to slide 23, "RACI  Definitions," and explained                                                               
"R"  stands  for  who  is  responsible, "A"  stands  for  who  is                                                               
accountable, "C" stands for who  is consulted, and "I" stands for                                                               
who is informed.  He elaborated upon the definitions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUSEN addressed  slide 24,  "Functional  RACI Matrix,"  and                                                               
reported it  as a broad  functional overview of how  the agencies                                                               
have come together.   He drew attention to the  first two columns                                                               
which  show   who  is  responsible  and   accountable  for  which                                                               
functions as follows:   for resource ownership  of the molecules,                                                               
Ms. Rutherford is  responsible and Mr. Myers  is accountable; for                                                               
sovereign taxation, Dona Keppers  is responsible and Mr. Hoffbeck                                                               
is accountable; for project ownership  and governance of the kit,                                                               
Frank Richards is responsible and  Mr. Krusen is accountable; for                                                               
project financing,  Ms. Keppers  is responsible and  Mr. Hoffbeck                                                               
is accountable; for LNG marketing,  Ms. Rutherford is responsible                                                               
and Mr.  Myers is accountable;  for in-state gas delivery  in the                                                               
kit  complex, Brad  Chastain  is responsible  and  Mr. Krusen  is                                                               
accountable;  and  for the  FEED  decision  support package,  Ms.                                                               
Rutherford  is responsible  and Governor  Walker is  accountable.                                                               
He explained  the FEED decision  support package is a  very, very                                                               
complicated matter where a lot of  people have to give input.  He                                                               
stated AGDC will  support the kit input and DOR  will provide the                                                               
money input.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:31:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  directed attention  to slide 24  and asked                                                               
Mr. Krusen, as the person  accountable for in-state gas delivery,                                                               
how a  competitive model  with in-state  gas is  worked out.   He                                                               
opined  there  is an  LNG  plant  currently  in Nikiski  that  is                                                               
liquefying gas at $6 for 1,000  cubic feet (1 Mcf) and Cook Inlet                                                               
might be  less than  that.   He expressed  his concern  about in-                                                               
state gas supply [from the  North Slope] being more expensive gas                                                               
and  would be  coming  down  to supply  Fairbanks  when there  is                                                               
cheaper gas that could come up  from a small diameter supply line                                                               
from Cook Inlet.   He asked Mr. Krusen how  that aggregation will                                                               
be worked out and set up.   He wanted to know if aggregation will                                                               
be competitive or if demand will  be aggregated from just the one                                                               
supply regardless of higher cost.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN replied that the  gas aggregator function and in-state                                                               
gas sales  are in early stages.   He stated little  has been done                                                               
so  far  because the  aggregator  corporation  was just  recently                                                               
established  late last  year  [2015].   He  said the  aggregation                                                               
corporation will be "kicking off in  a big way in February."  Mr.                                                               
Krusen told  the committee he can't  really answer Representative                                                               
Seaton's question, but he  acknowledged Representative Seaton had                                                               
raised some  good points.   He  stated there  will be  gas coming                                                               
down from the  North Slope and gas in Cook  Inlet, and he offered                                                               
his assumption  that the market  will sort  that out on  its own.                                                               
He  explained  it is  AGDC's  prerogative  to detour  from  doing                                                               
anything that will distort the market.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:33:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  clarified  he  wanted to  know  what  the                                                               
policy  decision  is  for  the  aggregator.    He  amplified  his                                                               
question by  asking if  the aggregator is  setting the  demand to                                                               
come from  one pipeline  because that  is the  project or  if the                                                               
aggregator will  be looking for  the cheapest supply out  of each                                                               
place from where there is demand.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN  answered it is still  in the pre-mature stage  and he                                                               
doesn't have  the answer.   He  mentioned they  will be  going to                                                               
their board  and giving them  suggested parameters.   He restated                                                               
he didn't know  the answer other than they don't  want to distort                                                               
the market.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON expressed concern  that in-state supply has                                                               
been a  major concentration area.   He shared his hope  that when                                                               
it  comes time  for  the policy  questions  regarding function  -                                                               
whether  it be  cost, making  sure there  is supply,  or deciding                                                               
whether to subsidize supply -  AGDC comes back to the legislature                                                               
and  consults for  advice.   He further  expressed his  hope that                                                               
AGDC  will  keep  the  legislature   apprised  of  polices  being                                                               
developed.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN agreed  that is achievable.  He said  it could be done                                                               
ad  hoc or  at  the AK  LNG Project  update  required every  four                                                               
months.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:36:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD  returned  to  the  PowerPoint  presentation  and                                                               
explained   that  slide   25,   "State  Gas   Team  Primary   Gas                                                               
Commercialization Functions,"  is just a block  reference of what                                                               
was  shown on  slide 24.   She  elaborated that  it shows  who is                                                               
actually responsible  for doing the  work and who  is responsible                                                               
for making decisions.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUSEN directed  attention to  slides 26  and 27,  regarding                                                               
tasks that were  compiled last Saturday [1/23/16].   He explained                                                               
DOR, DOL,  DNR, and  AGDC will  work through  the major  tasks of                                                               
turning Alaska  North Slope natural  gas into profit  through the                                                               
AK LNG Project.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:37:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  asked  who was  most  responsible  for                                                               
preparing the PowerPoint presented today.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD answered Lynn Kent from  the gas line team was the                                                               
responsible member for  developing the packets.  It  was also Ms.                                                               
Kent's task  to gather everyone's  input.  Ms.  Rutherford shared                                                               
that the actual RACI chart was filled  out in real time at a work                                                               
session attended by all agency heads and support staff.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   JOSEPHSON   questioned    the   confidence   the                                                               
legislature  should have  for the  remaining three  years of  the                                                               
administration  that even  as  people  come and  go  this is  the                                                               
operating understanding of the departments.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD replied she absolutely believes yes.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN concurred and added that there may be some growth.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:40:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER  said the structure of  RACI is "masterful"                                                               
and asked who came up with it and what its origins were.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN replied it is a standard industry tool.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD said  another version  of it  is called  (LACTI).                                                               
LACTI stands  for L-leads a  task, A-approves task  work product,                                                               
C-consulted on task,  T-tasked to do the work,  I-informed of the                                                               
work product.  She suggested a  big thanks be given to AGDC Chair                                                               
Dave  Cruz  for   being  the  primary  author   for  the  process                                                               
suggestion.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HAWKER  inquired   whether  this   approach  was                                                               
homegrown or whether someone was technical helping the group.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN  responded that it  is a tool everyone  is comfortable                                                               
with.   He mentioned  that Brad  Chastain, the  lead for  the in-                                                               
state  function, is  the person  who  facilitated the  functional                                                               
overview, and Steve Wright helped  with the more detailed aspects                                                               
and  task orientation  of the  charts.   Mr.  Krusen offered  his                                                               
understanding  that the  origin of  the RACI  model was  with the                                                               
United States military but that he  would have to go on a "Google                                                               
quest" to confirm.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAWKER  offered  kudos to  the  facilitators  and                                                               
remarked  that  they seem  to  have  "gotten the  behemoth  under                                                               
control here."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD added  to Mr.  Krusen's  previous statement  that                                                               
there will be increasing granularity  with use of the RACI charts                                                               
by  noting that  utilization of  RACI will  create an  additional                                                               
subset of tasks,  which will offer a  more detailed understanding                                                               
of the work exercises.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAWKER noted he liked  the disclaimer on slides 26                                                               
and 27,  which states, "Target  Date is dependent  upon alignment                                                               
of all AK LNG Parties, which is outside of state control."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:43:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  returned to the  presentation and noted  slide 28                                                               
was an  overview of slides 29-42  so she would not  be going over                                                               
each  slide,  as they  provided  additional  detail on  the  work                                                               
stream  teams including:   fiscal,  property  tax, expansion  and                                                               
third party  access, midstream  system use,  upstream, marketing,                                                               
finance, and governance.  The  slides cover identification of who                                                               
is lead  on each of  the work streams,  what the duties  are, and                                                               
who the team members are.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.   KRUSEN  directed   attention  to   slide  43,   "Update  on                                                               
TransCanada  Buyout,"  reporting  that,   as  authorized  by  the                                                               
legislature, the  state acquired TC's  equity interest in  AK LNG                                                               
on 11/24/15  for $64.6  million.   The information  and functions                                                               
have  moved over  from TC  to AGDC,  with the  exception of  some                                                               
minor bookkeeping,  to dissolve the TC  Alaska "midstream limited                                                               
partnership vehicle."   One  aspect of TC  that still  remains is                                                               
the "good  work" of the roughly  13 project team members  TC left                                                               
on contract  through mid-May, who  are mostly on the  pipeline in                                                               
Calgary.  Mr.  Krusen stated the project is almost  over the hump                                                               
on pre-FEED  and the project  team will  start winding down.   He                                                               
said  TC has  submitted its  final  cost report,  which is  still                                                               
being audited, but it looks like  they might have to write Alaska                                                               
a check for a couple hundred  thousand dollars.  Mr. Krusen said,                                                               
"We all  had very high respect  for TransCanada."  He  added, "We                                                               
all have stepped  up and taken their role to  represent the State                                                               
of Alaska throughout the AK LNG Project."                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:47:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR related one of  the concerns about the buyout                                                               
was  regarding some  of the  more  technical work  that was  done                                                               
early on  that would  be beneficial  to the  project as  it moved                                                               
forward.   She inquired whether  that highly valued  product from                                                               
the early  work became  part of  the AK  LNG Project  and whether                                                               
that process happened smoothly.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRUSEN  answered  yes.    He  offered  his  assumption  that                                                               
Representative Tarr  was referring  to work  done related  to the                                                               
Alaska Pipeline  Project (APP).   He said it either  has recently                                                               
been  moved over  or is  still in  transit to  the AGDC  document                                                               
management system.   He assured the committee  that firewalls had                                                               
been set up  for Alaska Stand Alone Pipeline (ASAP)  data, AK LNG                                                               
data, and APP data.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR  shared  her  understanding  that  APP  data                                                               
became an  asset of the state  and, should it become  useful, the                                                               
state will  have the option to  gain back some of  the value that                                                               
was paid for it.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN confirmed it is "absolutely  a state asset" and is now                                                               
being looked  after by  the state pipeline  company on  behalf of                                                               
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:49:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN said  slide 44 was an update on  the AGDC presidential                                                               
search.    He discussed  B+R  of  Houston,  Texas, as  being  the                                                               
executive search  firm that  was hired in  November.   The search                                                               
firm fees  and expenses  were not  to exceed  $170,000.   He said                                                               
AGDC  was  advised  it  could  take between  120  and  180  days,                                                               
although he  is pleased to report  that he doesn't think  it will                                                               
take 120  days because there is  such a high volume  of interest.                                                               
He described the ideal candidate as  someone who is a leader, has                                                               
a  good  technical and  project  foundation,  knows gas  pipeline                                                               
and/or LNG,  and knows  the commercial,  the regulatory,  and the                                                               
permitting world.  He said B+R  is an industry leader and thus is                                                               
not cheap.   He also stated  that the high volume  of interest in                                                               
the position was more than anticipated.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:51:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON inquired  whether Mr.  Krusen would  be                                                               
applying for the AGDC presidential position.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN replied no.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:51:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TARR  weighed the  options available for  what the                                                               
state can offer versus private  sector employment.  She expressed                                                               
her concern  about appearing  to have  downgraded the  salary for                                                               
this  position.   She  questioned Mr.  Krusen  on whether  [AGDC]                                                               
would have some of those same issues.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN confirmed the issue  is complicated.  He stressed that                                                               
that level  of employment comes  with certain  expectations, such                                                               
as stock and  bonuses, which are not often available  to state or                                                               
public employees.   He  stated his realization  that if  they get                                                               
"too  outside the  box,"  AGDC  will have  to  come  back to  the                                                               
legislature for  approval to do  whatever it takes to  secure the                                                               
talent.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  TARR requested  that the  legislature be  kept in                                                               
the loop on this.  She said she  felt it's the sort of thing that                                                               
would require a  lot of background information  before a decision                                                               
was made and  she wouldn't want to  see a delay in  the hiring of                                                               
an excellent candidate.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN  explained it is  the board,  not staff, who  does the                                                               
hiring.   He reiterated  that whoever  is hired  will have  to be                                                               
able to work well with the legislature.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:53:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRUSEN  resumed the  presentation and  that noted  that slide                                                               
45, "AGDC:   In-State  Gas Aggregator,"  reiterates much  of what                                                               
had  already been  discussed.    He explained  that  some of  the                                                               
technical  functions  of the  aggregator  are  addressed on  this                                                               
slide,  but Representative  Seaton's points  regarding commercial                                                               
aspects are not  covered and shows that AGDC has  a lot more work                                                               
to do.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:54:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  offered  his  understanding  that  Mr.                                                               
Krusen had  previously said AGDC  is responsible for  cash calls.                                                               
He also recalled Commissioner  Hoffbeck's earlier statement about                                                               
financing  options.   Representative  Josephson  also shared  his                                                               
understanding of a possible $600-$800  million in 2017 that would                                                               
not be financed.  He offered  his assumption that the state would                                                               
essentially be  writing a  check for  that portion  of FEED.   He                                                               
further  questioned  whether that  should  be  subtracted in  the                                                               
reckoning when  looking at the  $7 billion in  the constitutional                                                               
budget reserve (CBR) and the $7 billion in the earnings reserve.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HOFFBECK  answered  there  has  not  been  a  final                                                               
decision made  whether to bond  or write  a check.   He explained                                                               
that if  the decision  is to pay  for it out  of assets,  then it                                                               
would most likely be a CBR withdrawal.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  explained  that in  the  fall  special                                                               
session in  2015 there was  quite a bit of  criticism surrounding                                                               
leadership roles, and  he congratulated the SGT for  doing such a                                                               
great job of clarifying.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD said SGT would  be happy to hear of Representative                                                               
Josephson's gratitude.   She explained that  slides 47-49 include                                                               
a  reiteration  of  the  various  details  from  earlier  in  the                                                               
presentation and is a guide to the numerous acronyms used.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:57:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD  reviewed DNR's  1/27/16 letter  to the  House and                                                               
Senate  Resources  Standing Committees.    She  stated it  simply                                                               
showed  the money  used to  pay TC  for its  work on  the project                                                               
before the  November 24,  2015, buyout date  when the  state took                                                               
over TC's  share of the project.   She explained the  total costs                                                               
to  amount to  $64.59 million  which is  broken down  into $62.09                                                               
million in  AK LNG cash calls  and TC development costs  and $2.5                                                               
million  in carrying  costs.   She  specified  these amounts  are                                                               
subject to audit, and audit results  will be reported back to the                                                               
legislature upon completion.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. RUTHERFORD noted that included  in the committee packet is an                                                               
update of  the agreements  and/or issues to  be negotiated.   She                                                               
said  TC has  been  removed  from the  sheet  on any  post-buyout                                                               
agreements.   She said most  importantly this updated  list shows                                                               
which agreements need legislative approval.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RUTHERFORD concluded  by stating  that Representative  Olson                                                               
requested clarification of the word  "sovereign" and there was an                                                               
e-mail  attachment   in  the  packets  explaining   sovereign  in                                                               
relation to how it is used in the context of the AK LNG Project.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:59:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR NAGEAK thanked the presenters.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:00:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no further business before the committee, the House                                                                 
Resources Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 3:01 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
1.29.16 HSE RES AKLNG State Gas Team Presentation.pdf HRES 1/29/2016 1:00:00 PM
01 27 16 HSE RES - Sec 77 SB 138 - DNR Rpt.pdf HRES 1/29/2016 1:00:00 PM
SB 138
HSE RES - AK LNG PJ Updated Timeline -Agreements to be Negotiated.pdf HRES 1/29/2016 1:00:00 PM